The Hare Krishna Movement, which has re-named itself The International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON), considers itself to be the modern core of Hinduism. Although Krishna lived over 5000 years ago, ISKCON today follows the teachings of Chaitanya who was born in Bengal in 1486 and who popularized the movement all over India. He is part of a lineage of successive disciples who, variously, taught the worship of Krishna, or the goddess Lakshmi or Rudra (referring to the god Shiva). Its principal scriptures were The Bhagavad-Geeta (The Song of God) and the Shrimad Bhagavatam (the story of the Personality of Godhead Shri Krishna Bhagavan).
Interestingly, ISKCON teaches that Absolute Truth is contained in the Vedas, the oldest scriptures in the world. Other key ISKCON beliefs are: (i) belief in one God. (ii) the doctrine of Advaita (non-dualism) – that our souls are part and parcel of God (iii) The love of God should be practised by chanting the holy names of the Lord, most easily done by chanting the Hare Krishna mantra: “Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare”. (iv) the essence of the Vedas is found in the Bhagavad-gita, a literal record of Krishna’s words which was first put into writing about 5000 years ago.
Evidently implicit in the synopsis of the ISKCON beliefs summarised above is the notion that God reincarnates into human form (the belief that God came to earth 5000 years ago in the personage of Krishna). Svami Dayanand Sarasvati tests this idea: Does God incarnate or not?, in his book Satyarth Prakash (‘Light of Truth’). In Chapter VII of this great book, titled God and the Vedas, his answer is an unqualified No because:
It is stated in the Yajur Veda: “He is unborn.”…. He overspreads all…. He is pure, is never born and never takes on a human form.” It is clear from these quotations from the Vedas that God was, and never is, born.
He then addresses the question: ‘But Krishna says in the Gita, “Whenever there is decay of virtue, I take on a human form.” GEETA (4: 7) What is your answer to that? “
Dayanand response is: Being opposed to the Veda, the Geeta cannot be held to be authoritative (ISKCON seems to agree with Dayanand on this view of the Vedas because one of its core principles is the statement “the Absolute Truth is contained in the Vedas, the oldest scriptures in the world”).
Dayanand goes on to suggest:“ It is possible that Krishna, being very virtuous and keen to further the cause of righteousness, might have wished to be born again and again, at different times, to protect the good and punish the wicked. If such was the case then it was harmless because whatever the good and the great possess – their wealth, their bodies and even their heart is at the service of humanity. Nevertheless, Krishna could never be God.
Dayanand, further, answers the question “Why do people then believe in the twenty-four incarnations of God?” with the following reasons: (i) a lack of knowledge of the Vedas (ii) such people have been led astray by sectarian ideologies and (iii) uneducated people are susceptible to ignorance, which is why they hold and propagate such false beliefs.
He then goes on to reject the objection that `God reincarnates into human form to destroy the wicked (as Raama did with Raavana)’ by asserting: “God – without being incarnated – not only has created this world, but is sustaining it and can dissolve it into its component elements. By being Omnipresent, God also pervaded the bodies of men like Kansa and Raavana and could have, at His will, cut off their vital life energy so instantly killing them. Only a fool would argue that the Supreme Spirit – possessed of Infinite Power, attributes and activity – needs to take on human form, to become subject to births and deaths, to kill an insignificant creature.”
Next Dayanand addresses another theoretical objection: “That God incarnates for the salvation of his devotees cannot be true, for, if those devotees conduct themselves according to His Law, He has the power to save them. Is the destruction of a Kansa or a Raavana…. even more difficult than the creation, sustenance and dissolution of the sun, the moon and the earth and other planets? Whoever reflects upon such acts of God cannot deny that there is no one like Him, nor shall ever be.”….”The reincarnation of God based on the idea that space entered a womb can never be true, because both space and God – being Infinite and Omnipresent – can neither enter nor exit. God’s leaving or entering could be possible only if it was the case that places exist where He is not present. But God was already present in (such a) womb as well as being outwith of it, so how can it be held that He went into and then came out of it?! It defies intelligent reasoning to believe in and say such things about God?” Dayanand concludes: it should so be understood that Christ and others also were not incarnations of God; they were all men.
How did God reveal the Vedas, and who to? Dayanand cites the SHATHAPATHA BRAHMAN 11: 4,2.3 for an answer: In the beginning, God revealed the four Vedas, Rig, Yajur, Saama and Atharva, to Agni, Vayu, Aaditya and Angira, respectively.”
He proffers the reason that at the beginning of the creation of humanity, ‘those four alone were the purest of all and so, God revealed the Vedas into their souls.
Q.What evidence proves that the Veda in Sanskrit is of Divine origin and not the work of man?
The scripture in which God is described as Holy, Omniscient, Pure in nature, character and attributes, Just, Merciful etc.; which in no way opposes the laws of nature, reason, the evidence of direct cognition, etc. nor the teachings of the highly learned altruistic teachers of humanity (A’ptas), and the intuition of pure souls, and in which the laws of science, attributes of matter and the soul are propounded as they are to be inferred from the order of nature as fixed by God is the book of Divine revelation. Only the Vedas fulfil all the above conditions, hence they are the revealed books and not books, like the Bible and the Q’uran.
[i)Dayanand critiques the Bible and Koran in chapters 13 and 14 of his book. (ii) It will also be seen from the preceding paragraph that the Geeta does not fulfil these criteria either – though it undoubtedly contains much wisdom of great beauty its brevity – in contrast to the 20,000 mantras in the Vedas – is clear proof that it is signally not a comprehensive and complete scripture of God’s Word or Law.]
Dayanand then discusses another objection, namely: “There is no necessity for the Veda to be revealed by God because mankind ca, over time, incrementally deduce all knowledge.” [Built into this query is the notion that Krishna – an incredibly wise and learned man – intuited all Vedic knowledge and summarised it into the Geeta.”]. Dayanand rejects this as follows:
“No, man cannot do that, because there can be no effect without a cause. For example, do uncivilised tribes ever become enlightened autonomously without being instructed by others? That is also true of men in civilized communities; they also need to be taught in order to become educated. Similarly, had God communicated the knowledge of the Veda to the earliest sages, and had they not, in turn, taught other men all mankind would have remained ignorant. If a newborn child is removed from his parents and kept in isolation and cared for by illiterate people or animals, he would develop into an ignorant and illiterate adult. [The tale of Tarzan vindicates this reasoning.]
Dayanand goes on to assert that “the people of Egypt, Greece, or the Continent of Europe were devoid of learning before knowledge spread to them from India. In the same way, before Columbus and other Europeans went to America, the natives there had been without any learning for hundreds and thousands of years. However, some of them have now become enlightened after receiving education from the Europeans.” Dayanand then quote the classical work of philosophy – Yoga Shastra written by Patanjli – that, analogously: “Just, as today we have become enlightened only after being taught by our teachers, likewise were – at the beginning of the world – Agni and the other three Rishis (sages) taught by the greatest of all teachers – God.” YOGA SHASTRA SAMADHI, 26.
Conclusion
This article exposes the reasons why certain ISKCON’s beliefs are erroneous, contradictory or false, particularly as reiterated below:
- Monotheism is incompatible with a belief in deities such as Rudra, Laxmi, Rudra, Shiva and Krishna.
- The fallacies in one of its main books – the Bhaghavad Puraana which also greatly traduced Krishna, the man.
- The Geeta cannot be the Word of God – it is a book written by Krishna’s disciples to quote a great rallying speech he gave in the heat of battle to motivate Arjuna. It defies belief that 20000 mantras of the four books of the Vedas could have been compressed into one motivational speech during a lull in a war; clearly the original words of the great man that Krishna was have since been edited by poetic licence – that such a great practitioner of the Vedic Dharma would have suffered a fit of megalomania to the extent of usurping God is surely nonsensical?
- Krishna undoubtedly was probably the greatest man to come out of India since the Mahabharata period 5000 years ago. However, over time his admirers seem to have not only elevated him to the status of God but also have replaced the conventional key names of God (as derived from the Vedas such as Eeshvar, Bhagvaan, Brahma and Aum in particular) with his name! Each Veda mantra, conventionally, begins with His name Aum e.g. Aum, bhuur, bhuvaha, svaha…Fortunately, ISCKON does not seen to have gone as far as using the word Krishna instead of Aum in this context (because such a step would, in one fell swoop, destroy the exact scientific prosody of the verses of the Veda).
- Elsewhere in his book, Dayanand asserts that “the account of the life of Krishna, as given in the Mahabharata, is true; that Krishna’s nature, attributes, character and conduct are all those of an apta (an altruistic, wide and saintly leader); there is no mention in that epic stating that he committed any sinful act during his whole life. But the author of the Bhagavatam has falsely attributed numerous vices and sinful practices, such as: the theft of milk, curd, and butter, adultery with a female servant called Kubja, flirtation with other people’s wives in the Ras mandal and so on. On the basis of this (false) account of Krishna’s life, the followers of other religions criticise him; had there been no Bhagvat, great men like Krishna would not have been wrongly lowered in the estimation of the world.
- It must be asked of ISKCON, somewhat rhetorically, why Lord Rama’s position, nowadays, seems to have been relegated to insignificance?
You say that ISKCON believes in monism but you are wrong as Srila prabhupada syas that monism is wrong. I am an arya samaji ex-ISKCON devotee.
iskcon preaches things and do not follow themselves . they critize anything and give stupid views fools and selfish people follow them
they preach that simply chanting hare rama hare krishna and being krishna conscoiones all your sins and problems will get vanished if they is so why they are always in controversy and scandals problems simply being krishna conssioous will not solve problems being spiritual is good
what enemity they have with lord shiva always they critize shiva everyone knows reality and significance of lord shiva in india i think lord krishna is himself fed up so every time controversy lies with iskcon
shahenshah ji
puraan ko chhodo aur ved ki marg me aaye. puraan smriti ityadi me bahut si ashlilta hai
iskcon people are arrogant and behave like as hypotneized
OM..
ARYAVAR, MANASTE..
ISKCON KE BAAREME KOI HINDI LEKH HAI ? AGAR HAI TO KRIPAYAA BATAANE KI KRIPAA KAREN..
DHANYAWAAD,
namaste aary ji..
ji ham koshish karenge ki iskon ke baare me jyada se jyada jaankaari hindi me dene ki. samay aur maukaa mila to is par bhi lekh post ki jaayegi.
dhanywaad
iskcon is fooling people in the name of god
Does Sri Krishna need Walt Disney for inspiration?
“Scandal” and “controversy” are the middle names of ISKCON.
Weighed down by the dum maaro dum bestowed inflicted on it by Bollywood, the cult has been accused of being a CIA outfit; its gurukuls have been infamous for sex scandals, child abuse, molestation and homosexual abuse; there have been whispers of its founder being murdered.
Its mid-day meal scheme Akshay Patra has slumped into a row.
It falls to a pattern, therefore, that ISKCON’s proposed Krishna Lila theme park on Kanakapura Road in Bangalore, for which the bhumi pooja took place should have been begun on a litigious note, with charges of land grabbing flying around between ISKCON and the Congress’ D.K.Shiva Kumar.
Money for the 28 acre, Rs 350 crore “family edutainment” theme park inspired by Disneyland, and aimed at weaning Indian kids away from western comic-strip icons Superman and Spiderman, will be raised by developing a “heritage township” on the 42.5 acres near the hillock
I observed that the majority of ISKCON community is composed of three kind of people.
1. Rich people
2. Highly educated
3. Westners
Rich people- Who have enjoyed all the materialistic pleasures that life has to offer or born rich who are fed up with their own lifestyle and took up spiritual path in search of peace.
Highly educated- These people want to learn more and more. They want to educate themselves to an extent of answering all the questions related to our existence. They have lot of patience and not many material desires and last but not least most of this kind of people have less responsibilities.
Westners – Most of them are not highly educated nor rich but still good at peoples management. They usually don’t have any family or any responsibilities. Their requirements are minimum and
they have passion and desire to explore the nature and faith. They have sufficient time to experiment in life and enough money to survive. They can easily attract people with their charm and especially Indians for whom they are like someone who are directly descended from the heaven.
Apart from these people, I don’t see many middle class or low class active population in ISKCON. Even if they come to ISKCON they wont stay for long due to many reasons like Family problems, Financial issues etc. It is hard to bring this middle class into ISKCON and make them believe KC philosophy
akshay ji
waise aapko yah jaankaari de du ki ham ved ki prachaar karte hain usme murti pujaa karnaa mana hai fir bhi aap pauranik ho to aapko pauranik hisaab se jawab deta hu ji… yah iscon me jo pujaa karne jaate hain daan dete hain ve paise kya bharat sarkaar ko di jaati hai?? bilkul nahi jitne paise milte hain daan me sab ko america bhej diya jaata hai.. yah ek mahaj kamai ki dhandha ban gayi hai… aur waise main bolunga aap nirakar parmatama ki pujaa kare magar nahi kar sakte to bhartiy mandir me jaaye aur waha daan kare…. jisse desh me hi paisa rahe aur desh kaa vikash ho sake…. aao murti puja karna chhodo. ved ki aor barho…. dhanywaad…
Amit Roy ji…. jara aap mujhe ek shlok ved se dijiye jahan par murti puja karnaa mana kiya gaya hai. Zakir Naik bhi yehi bolta hai, vedon ke shlok ka jhutha arth nikal ke. To aap me aur Zakir Naik me kya farak hai. Main ISKCON ka follower nahi hoon par main Vaishnav Dharm ka follower hoon. Sayad aap jante honge Madhvacharya, Ramanujacharya jaise mahan Acharyaon ko. Kya woh sab Ved ko follow nahi karte the?? Kya woh sab galat the?? Madhvacharya ne Ved ka vyakhya bhi kiya hai. Ved ka vyakhya Sayanacharya ne bhi kiya hai. Ved ka vyakhyakar sirf Dayanand Saraswati nahi hai. To main Dayanand Saraswati ka vyakhya kyun manu?? Dayanand Saraswati Islam aur Christianity se prabhabit ho kar Ved ka so called vyakhya kiya hai. Dayanand Saraswati’s explanation of Vedas is nothing but Vedic version of Islam. Iske upar bhi debate ho sakta hai. Philhaal to aap mujhe ek shlok aisa dijiye ved se jahan par Murti Pujaa ka manaa kiya gaya hai.
Ved ka vyakhya Sayanacharya ne bhi kiya hai
ye kab ho gaya mitra
Murti puja ved men kahan hia isaka jawab to Rishi Dayanand ka Kashi Shashtrarth aaj bhee bhee mang raha hia
न तस्य प्रतिमा अस्ति वेद का मंत्र है और भी मन्त्र मिल जायेंग
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“ना तस्य प्रतिमा अस्ति”-
जैसा कि आप सब को पता है कि आजकल बहुत से
हिन्दू विरोधी द्वारा लोगो को वेदो के गलत
अर्थ निकालकर लोगो को बेवकूफ
बनाया जाता है जिनमेआर्य समाजी प्रमुख है
इनके पास ना तो वेदो का कोई ज्ञान है और
ना ही दूर दूर तक कोई सँबँध इनका मकसद सिर्फ
हिन्दूओं को बेवकूफ बनाना है
खैर इस लेख को पढ़िये और जाकिर का सच जानिये
इनके द्वारा मूर्तिपूजा के विरोध मे यजुर्वेद
के दिये गये उदाहरण:-
1- ना तस्य प्रतिमा अस्ति- उसकी कोई
मूर्ति नही हो सकती (यजुर्वेद 32:3)
2- सुधामा पोपविधम- वो शरीरहीन है (यजुर्वेद
40:8)
3- अन्धं तमः प्रविशन्ति ये संभूती मुपसते |
वे अन्धकार मे जायेँगेँ जो प्राकृतिक वस्तुओ
की पूजा करते है, और वो गहरे अन्धकार मे जायेँगे
जो कृत्रिम वस्तुओ की पूजा करते है (यजुर्वेद
40:9)
4- हमे सही मार्ग पर ले जाइये और हमारे मे से
वो पाप हटाइये जो हमे भटकाते और बहकाते है
(यजुर्वेद 40:16)
चलिये अब हम जाकिर इनके दावो को जाँचते
है
1- ना तस्य प्रतिमा अस्ति
का मतलब है “कि उसकी तुलना किसी से
नही हो सकती”
लेकिन यहाँ पर ये दावा करते है
कि प्रतिमा का सिर्फ एक ही अर्थ है वो है
मूर्ति
चलो एक मिनट के लिये हम आपकी बात मान ले
तो आपने कहा कि “उसकी मूर्ति नही हो सकती”
तो किसकी मूर्ति???
जानने के लिये पूरे श्लोक पढ़ो
यजुर्वेद 32:1
अर्थ: वो अग्नि है, वो सूर्य है, वो हवा है,
वो चन्द्रमा है।
वो ही सबसे शुद्ध और आकर्षक है, वो जल है
वो सभी सजीव वस्तुओ का स्वामी (प्रजापति)
है॥
32:2
सभी चीजे उसमे विद्यमान है ना तो कोई उससे
ऊपर जा सकता है और ना ही नीचे और
ना ही कोई उसके पार जा सकता है
32:3
न तस्य प्रतिमा अस्ति यस्य नाम मह्द्य्श: |
हिरण्यगर्भऽ ईत्येष मा मा हिन्सिदित्येष
यस्मानऽ जातऽ ईत्येष: ||
अर्थ: उसकी तुलना किसी से नही की जा सकती,
वो ब्रह्माण्ड है वो हिरण्यगर्भ ( यजुर्वेद
25:10, 13:4, 23:10 देखे)
वो मा मा (यजुर्वेद 12:102 देखे) वो यस्मान
जात (यजुर्वेद 8:36 देखे)
2- यजुर्वेद 40:8
सुधामा पोपविधम
इस मँत्र मे भी “हिरण्यगर्भ” के बारे मे
बताया गया है “हिरण्यगर्भ” के बारे मे दिये गये
यजुर्वेद के मँत्र जरूर पढ़े
3- अन्धं तमः प्रविशन्ति ये संभूतीमुपसते |
40:9
अर्थ: वो लोग अन्धकार मे जाते है जो सिर्फ
“असंभूति” मे विश्वास/उपासना करते है
और वो लोग भी गहरे अन्धकार मे जाते है जो लोग
सिर्फ “संभूति” पर विश्वास उपासना करते है
असंभूति का मतलब प्राकृतिक वस्तुयेँ (जैसे जल वायु
आदि)
संभूति का मतलब कृत्रिम वस्तुये
इस मँत्र मे सिर्फ संभूति और सिर्फ असंभूति से
मना क्यूँ किया गया है इसके लिये आगे के दो मँत्र
देखे
मँत्र 10
अन्य देवाहुः सम्भवादन्यदाहुर सम्भावात् |
इति शुश्रुम धीराणां ये नस्तद्विचचक्षिर े ||
अर्थ: हमने उन देवताओ से सुना है जिन्होने
उपरोक्त मँत्र (40:9)
बताया कि संभूति की उपासना से प्राप्त फल
असंभूति की उपासना से प्राप्त फल से अलग
होता है
मँत्र 11
संभूतिं च विनाशं च यस्त द्वेदोभय सह |
विनाशेन मृत्युं तीर्त्वा संभूत्यामृतमश्न ुते ||
अर्थ: सिर्फ असंभूति से मृत्यु
को जीता जा सकता है और संभूति से जन्म-मरण से
मुक्त(अमर) हुआ जा सकता है इसीलिये
दोनो की उपासना करो
4- हे परमात्मा हमे सही मार्ग पर ले चल, और
हमारे से पाप को दूर रखते हुये हमे भटकने और
बहकने से बचा
इसमे गलत क्या है??
हिरण्यगर्भ तो अपने आप मे ही ब्रह्मान्ड है
आपके 3रे उदाहरण मे तो संभूति और
असंभूति दोनो की उपासना बतायी गयी है
और चौथे उदाहरण मे आप भी बता रहे की “हे
परमात्मा हमे सही मार्ग पर ले चल, हमारे से
पापो को दूर रखकर हम भटकने और बहकने से
बचा”
“सत्यमेव जयते”
आपने अर्थ लिखा है कि उसकी तुलना नहीं हो सकती
जब तुलना नहीं हो सकती तो मूर्ति कैसे हो सकती है
🙂
नमस्ते सुब्रत जी
सबसे पहली बात ये में दावा कर सकता हु की आपको वेदों का सरल ज्ञान भी नही है
इसका कारण है कि वेदों में श्लोक नही मन्त्र होते है
इसके आगे आपने कहा कि एक वेद मन्त्र बताऊ जिसमें मूर्ति पूजा का विरोध है तो वो है “न तस्य प्रतिमा अस्ति” बहुत प्रचलित है इस पर ध्यान दीजियेगा
फिर आपने मुझे वैष्णव धर्म कहा
मुझे समझ नही आया सनातन धर्मी कहते हो और उसमें भी नए नए धर्म बना रहे हो ये कैसे सनातनी है आप ?
आपने कहा आप वैष्णव सम्प्रदाय से है तो आपको ध्यान ही होगा कुछ और भी सम्प्रदाय है जैसे शैव सम्प्रदाय
दोनों सम्प्रदाय के लोग एक दूसरे के विद्वानों और यहां तक कि देवी देवताओं को भी ऊंचा नीचा कहते है
खैर इससे कोई अर्थ नही
आगे आपने सायण आदि के भाष्यों पर ध्यान दिलाया
क्या सायण महीधर के भाष्य आपने पढ़े है
यदि नही तो पढियेगा कई जगह आपको ग्लानि महसूस होगी
फिर आप कहते है कि में केवल दयानन्द को ही क्यों मानू तो भैया हमारा आप पर दबाव नही है परन्तु एक बार ऋषि के और सायण महीधर के भाष्यों का मिलान कीजियेगा आपको स्वतः ज्ञात हो जाएगा कि स्वामी दयानंद ही क्यों
आगे आप कहते है कि ऋषि दयानन्द ने मूर्ति पूजा का विरोध कर इस्लाम की पैरवी की है तो भाई आपके अनुसार तो यह कार्य आद्य गुरु शंकराचार्य जी ने बहुत पहले ही कर दिया है
विश्वास न हो तो शंकराचार्य की लिखी परापुजा पढ़िए
ईसके आगे आपके जवाब की प्रतीक्षा रहेगी
धन्यवाद
Amit Roy… why you deleted my comment?? Come on… publish it and let me ask questions and let us have a debate. I swear I am not a follower of ISKCON but I am a sincere seeker of truth and I have many questions to raise in critique of Arya Samaj also. If you publish a critique then you should also give equal chance to others for a counter critique. Why don’t you allow that???
If it has been deleted pls post it again
we will publish it.
no issue in that
कहिये क्या कहना है आपको
और निवेदन है और उचित भी रहेगा कि मातृ भाषा का उपयोग करे
nirakar parmatama k pooja kese kre . Plz explain ..and plz explain from where you learn it .dont say anything without proof of geeta vedas puran .
Plz mail me for reply
harekrishnadas25091991@gmail.com
U may go through satyarth prakash for this
http://www.satyarthprakash.in
amit roy iskcon is involved in controversy scandals google it
akshay ji
ji hame maalum hain ji… iskon ke sansthapak ki bhi maut sandehsatamak huyi thi… bahut logo kaa bolna hai unki maut jahar ityadi dekar khilaa dene se huyi thi… magar iska hamare paas pukhta praman nahi hai ji… isi kaaran in maamle me maine koi comment nahi kiya. kyunki yaha par ham galat jaankaari nahi dete… yadi denge to hamare reader use parhkar gumrah honge….
I have seen ISKCON selling books, food, and now even maha mantra. The charges laid are not common they are always more than the market price. I am not in india and the place near to my workplace has govindas, they have meditating room and they charge to go into that room and meditate. My friend was asking me why these people charge a lot and why god needs money to spread his name. He is eternal and most powerful, I know he will be happy if we do something for him out of love. But ISKCON is making lot of money worldwide using the knowledge gained from scriptures, My humble question is where this money is going, why they are building these many temples and why creating these many groups.God dont need any representatives to spread his glories, his opulence can be seen in everthing in this material world and everybody knows about the supreme power.
ISKCON feeds and care for people who are good economically or who can do some service. They are running some schools and ‘Food for life’ but even for that they are getting extra money. Why dont spiritual leaders come into politics and serve public if they are really concerned about them. In even bhaktivedanta hospital they charge more than normal hospital. Just by reading scriptures and explaining philosophy will not solve problem. We should feed poor people prasadam, we should open educational institutes that dont charge anything and include philosophy as a subject. Krishna consiousness is not a procedure to wipe of all your past sins and simply go back to godhead
It has become a business to earn money. All the money goes to the United States which people give donations here. Come true and return to Sanatan Vedic religion.
Why ISKCON is wrong
International Society of Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) is a religious society – or CULT, started by Prabhupada who is a Gaudiya Vaishnava. They are different from other societies or schools of Hinduism by the fact that ISKCON acts like a marketing corporation. While other schools of Hinduism focuses on inner peace and other philosophical elements, ISKCON goes around saying ‘JOIN HERE! JOIN HERE! Be our devotee’. Their intentions are no different than the facebook pages you see around – to make people join their venture so that they get enough publicity and money. What do the devotees gain from this? A shortcut to Nirvana, eternal peace…and so on regardless whatever acts they do in their daily life. What do the prabhus of iskCON gain from this? Money, lavish life styles, respect from devotees, free trip to tourist places and many more.
Bhaktivedanta Swami a.k.a Prabhupada began ISKCON under the philosophies of Gaudiya Vaishnavists. A school that is just 500 years old which was found by Caitanya Mahaprabhu. There weren’t much people following this sect until Prabhupada started ISKCON some 50 years ago. Why? The philosophies and ideals of this sect are in stark contrast with the core philosophies of Hinduism/ Sanatana Dharma. It is clear from his speeches that Prabhupada had no philosophical or psychological knowledge and his statements were hollow. He delivered statements such as “Women have less knowledge than men” and “Love Krishna or love vagina”. He failed to attract philosopher and scientists, people with rational thoughts and sceptics. Such people bowed down to the words of Swami Vivekananda. No people spoke against the philosophies of Swami Vivekananda. However, only desperate people seeking ‘eternal happiness’ who believe in heaven and hell follows Prabhupada and his society blindly.
ISKCON calls Lord Shiva an “Anti-Vedic God” stating that he is not present in the Vedas. Ironically, ‘Rudra’ is present in Vedas and the case is different.. What is the sacred text of Hinduism? It’s the four Vedas- Rig Veda, Sama Veda, Yajur Veda and Adharva Veda. They are ‘shruti’ (revealed). They are the words of almighty himself while every other texts such as puranas and ithihasas are ‘smriti’(remembered) are written by sages after studying the Vedas. If you didn’t get what I mean.
Here is an equation: 1+1=2
Here is an illustration of the equation: Dev had 1 apple. Maya gave another apple to Dev. Now, Dev have 2 apples.
While the equation is difficult to understand by the common people, the sages drew the illustration to make the ideas of Vedas be understandable to every single person.
This is why there are many versions of Ramayana, Puranas, and different stories of creation. i.e. it doesn’t make any difference if Dev was Ray and it was Orange instead of apple. The idea of ‘1+1=2’ is the same.
This is the Vedas. The supreme sacred book. If any other book of Hinduism contradicts with the Veda then Vedas are given priority and the latter idea is ruled out. So, what is the sacred book of iskCON?
It’s ‘Bhagavad Gita AS IT IS”. When you hear ‘as it is’ you think it’s the original Bhagavad Gita. It’s not. It’s just the version of Prabhupada who gave it the title ‘as it is’ to fool people all over the world. The devotees of ISKCON never read the Bhagavad Gita commented by other sages such as Shankaracharya, Dayananda etc. They are arrogant and consider Prabhupada’s version as the final word of God and consider even the Vedas as inferior. The deity ‘Radha’ which the followers of iskcon worship is not even present in BhagavataPurana. ‘Radha’ was just a character introduced by Jayadev in his poems.
In Prabhupada’s version of Bhagavad Gita, Krishna is the supreme God, the ultimate one and every other Gods of the Hindu pantheon bow down to him. This is absolute stupidity, The Vedas proposes the Advaita. That all Gods are one and the formless God Parabrahma is the supreme God. When someone says this, the iskcon devotee or prabhu would take down the “BhagvadGita As it is” and points the verses were Krishna says he is the supreme one. This is the behaviour of the followers of Abrahamic Religions. They say “Jesus is the only God” and “if you don’t believe me see here in the Holy Bible”. Same with the Muslims supporting their views using Quran. Let’s say I write a book stating that I’m the most handsome guy in the world. How do you like if I say “I’m the most handsome guy in the world….and if you don’t believe me …see…its written this book”. How about the fact that Superman exists because it is there in his comics. The views of iskcon are written by their own people. I once had a Sivastakam posted in this blog and people were asking me why it says Siva chants Vishnu’s name and such things. I was confused and referred a bit more and found out that this version of Sivastakam was written by none other than Caitanya Mahaprabhu, the founder of Gaudiya Vaishnava. It is no wonder he wrote it that way. It’s like some American write a poem saying Nelson Mandela bowed down to Obama and 500 years later followers of Obama would say ‘see….it’s in this poem. Nelson Mandela worshipped Obama’.
” People often confuse that , ‘As it is’ means true with out own interpretations . But it is not really so. It is just from ‘Gaudiya perspective’ only . such things are called COMMENTARIES (Bhashya) only. Adi sankara ( Advaita) , Ramanuja (Vishistadvaita) Madvacharya (Dvaita)etc have written Bhasyas only. They didn’t call their Bhasyas as ‘Bhagavad Gita AS IT IS’ . They are very humble . But Srila Prabhupada showed his stupidity in the Very TITLE it self. This shows his arrogance and hedonistic attitude towards other schools. He Presented Krishna as someone like Biblical God or some Koranic God who want people to worship him only and calling others as Demi gods. This is filthy and foolish as well. If this continues , people may develop wrong concept against Bhagavad Gita. just like ‘koran’ .
BhagavadGita teaches equality of all paths Gnyana , Karma, Bhakti and Rajayogas. here words of Krishna should not be understood like words of ‘Monopolist and Dictator god who seeks sadistic pleasure by ordering his creation to worship him otherwise they will not be liberated. ‘ These interpretations are suitable for Islam and christianity.
“- Courtesy the blog – ISK’CON’
The ‘Maha’ Mantra – “Hare Krishna Hare Rama” is considered to be the most powerful and greatest (Maha) mantra by the ISKCON devotees. However this mantra itself is distorted. People
have their own favorite mantras. Some like to chant the Gayatri Mantra and some prefer the Mrityujnaya Mantra. Yet, the Vedas or puranas never even once said any mantra was the greatest. The Vedas don’t have a note below the mantra saying “this is the best one”.
Everyother sacred texts of Hinduism, every other sects and schools, every single one are all opposed to the ideas of iskcon and the gaudiya vaishnava cult. The ‘Brahma Samhita’ which also states that Shiva worshipped Krishna was also written by the gaudiya vaishnavas 500 years ago. The iskcon prabhus fail to point out any other sacred text apart from the distorted ones of their own in support of their views. They are indeed Anti-Vedic.
How did the iskCON succeed? Their marketing skills ofcourse. Let’s see how it is established.
Emotionally sensitive people are in desperate need for a superior figure to bow down to. The Christians have the Christ, the Muslims have Allah and so on. While in Hinduism there are 300 Million Gods and everyone is a single force – the Nirakara Rupa Parabrahma. Parabrahma doesn’t have a form so can’t be worshipped. People take their favourite God. Some Shiva, some Vishnu, some Ganesha etc. Krishna is one of the popular Gods and is a heroic figure in Hinduism. Instead of doing things mysteriously up in the sky, he came down to earth and lived like a human. Iskcon picked Krishna labelling the ‘Gaudiya Vaishnava’ way. Ok, Krishna is been worshipped for ages. There are thousands of temples in India for Krishna. People all visit them without any biased view. What do the iskCON have to do to bring all those people exclusively inside their temple? Make people believe that everyother Gods in Hinduism are inferior and Krishna is the only supreme God.
This is a difficult job because the Puranas and Vedas have a different view. ‘Let’s distort it’, iskcon thought. Trimurti- the three ultimate Gods of Hinduism- BrahmaDev, Vishnu and Shiva. Nobody worships BrahmaDev apparently. Vishnu? Let’s just say that Vishnu is only an avatar of Krishna and Krishna is the supreme one. WOW! Nobody ever did such a distortion to Hinduism. Check out every single book of Hinduism and try to find if any one of it (apart from the one written by Gaudiya Vaishnavas) which supports this blasphemy. They made Krishna their ‘Father’ and Caitanya Mahaprabhu their ‘Jesus’. Now, onto the arch enemy of iskCON- Lord Shiva. They said,
“Shiva is a demi-god.
He cannot grant wishes. He only has the control over material elements. He can’t help you attain Nirvana.
Shiva is the best Vaishnava and the greatest devotee of Krishna.
The worshippers of Shiva are brute, alcoholic womanizers. They don’t have artistic sense and they behave like barbarians.
Shiva once said to Yashoda “Give me atleast the chance to eat the remnants of Krishna” in Mathura.
Shiva is a barbaric God. He needs human sacrifices, blood and skulls of people to be pleased.”
Those who are exposed to the views of iskCON find it difficult even to talk about Lord Shiva. Thus they all focus their attention to the only supreme God, Krishna. However, only common people seeking the short cut to ‘eternal happiness’ follow this. Just like the Christians. “Jesus died for your sins. Believe in him and you’ll have the entry to heaven irrespective the sins you did in your life.” While the ‘Karma’ law of Hinduism is of different nature. There is no heaven or hell. Only Life after Death or Niravana. That life depends upon the acts you do in this one. Karma states every action has its consequences which is scientifically proven. Every intellectual believer of Hinduism even atheists believe in this philosophy. ISkcon proposes a shortcut to happiness. No wonder why selfish people blindly follow them- they just need a prosperous life regardless whatever sins they do.
Actually, Krishna is an avatar of Lord Vishnu. In every age, when evil becomes dominant, Vishnu will incarnate on earth to defeat it. In the Dwapara Yuga, Vishnu incarnated as Krishna in human form. He did his Karma and died. Even there is a story behind that. Rama, the previous avatar of Vishnu killed Vanara King Bali by cheating. Knowing that what he did was wrong, Rama said, “you will kill me the same way, while I’m not aware of your attack, in our next life”. Just as he said, Krishna was the reincarnation of Rama and while he was sleeping in a jungle, a hunter (reincarnation of Bali) shot Krishna with an arrow thinking that he was a deer by just seeing his feet. Thus the law of Karma is even applicable to Gods in human forms. Krishna died, but Vishnu still lives. Because he is timeless like Lord Shiva.
ISKCON have been doing whatever they can to degenerate other Gods of Hinduism. An ISKCON Prabhu’Ji’ once said ‘I was a Shiva devotee when I was young. Wanted to offer my skull to ShivaLinga but didn’t find the courage or sword to do it.’
What an imprudent scenario!
Search the whole sacred texts of Hinduism and you’ll never see an instance where anyone offering his skull to LordShiva to make him pleased. How can it be? The person will die after he cuts his head, how can he take that to ShivaLinga after his death? This statement of the Prabhu’JI’ was intended to give a wrong impression of Lord Shiva to the people. They will misunderstand Shiva as some demon barbaric God like that of the Mayans or Celts who seeks sacrifice of humans. “It is better to worship Krishna”, they’ll think. People with lesser knowledge on Hinduism, who never read any Puranas or Vedas are prone to believe such distorted ideas of these fake prabhus. While, people who know what Hinduism is, the reality of the Gods in it and the significance of Lord Shiva will only spat at iskCON. That is why iskCON have better success in countries other than India. Indians know the truth about Hinduism but a person new to it would believe whatever distorted philosophies the bogus prabhus propose.
ISKCON are known for their frequent filing of lawsuits, sex scandals and money handling. The prabhus and their followers find ‘inner peace’ by dancing around “ding dong” and speaking against Vedas and other Gods of Hinduism.
JAI MAHADEV
@Amit. Great job, time and mouthful of information. God Bless! Krishna Bless! Youuu…
i think iskcon is conspiracy funded by west to distort hindus and hinduism
You are eye-opener. Hmm
I vote for Rishi Dayanand Saraswsthi,airport name
I vote for the rishi Dayanand,keep as airport name
I am spiritual seeker and find ISKCON at my new relocation. Their practices are highly spiritually uplifting. But they start poisoning my mood when they start talking about iskcon SUPREMACY philosophies. Things I was thought as helpful in spiritual practice, they present them as strict rules and offenses (e.g compulsory to Chant Mahamantra aloud(meanwhile I was taught to do that at beginner level to control the mind) , treating Gods like Lord Shiva close or equal to Krishna is offense against Name of God/Krishna.)
Though I agree with God Supremacy and can incarnate as human or anything to do whatever He likes (no one can limit Him) for whatever reason. As reply to author of main article (Swami Dayanand)
I will be glad if someone will make thorough research and revelations on the BRAHMA SAMHITA. ISCKON base their KRISHNA Supremacy on this. Making references and quotations here and there any time you ask questions. SOMEONE HELP US PLEASE.
I must say, like a swan, I find ISCKON spiritual practices very much elevating but have to reject the other side (the unhelpful ones/beliefs), which have been mixed with the spiritual teachings for whatever reason so ever.
THANK YOU ALL. GOD BLESS!
We vote for this rishi Dayanand,name to keep name
from iskcon u can learn that how easily u can fool people in name of god
iskcon people are arrogant zombies hypotenized they cannot understand anything except krishna
image of hindus is spoiled by iskcon abroad
Just have to say 4 points.
Ved shastra kya kehte hain, ye agar discuss na bhi kre to , picchle 1000 saal me Sri Krishan ke bhakto ke jeewan se prerna leni chahiye, ki bhagwan kaun hai aur uska apna aadiroop bhi hai jiska darshan bhagaton ne kiya hai. Picchle 1000 saal me nirakar brahm ko maanne wale kitne bhakt popular hain? Ek bhi nahi. Yahaan tak ke Shankarachrya ne bhi kaha hai “Bhaj Govindam, Bhaj Govindam mudmate”.
Satyarth prakash ko Gandhiji ne duniya ki sabse ghatiya kitaab kyon kaha tha.
ISKCON ki philosophy aur uske system ka 10% bhi tum logon ko gyan nahin hai.
Bhagwaan Krishna ko aur unki leela ko samajhna aapke jaise nirakarvadion ki budhhi se pare hai. Koshish bhi mat krna samjhne ki, ualjh jaoge.
Are jis mukti ke liye tum yagya krte ho, ved padte ho, us mukti ko to Shrikrishna ke bhakt laat maarte hain. Mukti unke aage paani bharti hai.
Hare Krishna.
लगता है आपने गीता नहीं पढ़ी यदि गीता पढ़ी होती तो इस तरह की बात नहीं करते | पौराणिक गीता में भी कृष्ण वेद की महिमा का गुणगान कर रहे हैं आप थोडा गीता तो ठीक से एक बार पढ़े इस हिसाब से आप कृष्ण की बात को स्वीकार नहीं कर रहे उनकी बातो को आप स्वीकार नहीं कर रहे | जब कृष्ण ही वेद की महिमा का गुणगान कर रहे है तो आप वेद का अपमान करके कृष्ण और गीता का अपमान नहीं कर रहे ? जरा इस बात को आप सोचना | सत्य बोलने वाले बहुत कम होते हैं सत्य स्वीकार करने वाले बहुत कम होते हैं इस बात को भी ख्याल रखना आप |
हमें गांधी की बात ना बताये गांधी का गुणगान यहाँ करने लगा तो आप गांधी को गाली देना शुरू कर देंगे | मैं ज्यादा गांधी की जानकारी नहीं देना चाहता |
आप वेद को लात मारकर कृष्ण और गीता को अपमान कर रहे हैं | आप जैसे लोग कई मिल जाते हैं और अपमान करते हैं उससे सत्य असत्य नहीं हो जाता | एक बार गीता सही से पढ़ें फिर आप वेद की गुणगान खुद करने लगेंगे |
हरे कृष्णा
Maine kab ved ko galat kaha, ya nakaara, ya laat maari? Aap mithya ilzaam laga rahe ho. Aur agar ek baar aap geeta ko pad lo, adisankarachrya ke bhasyawali hi sahi,aapko sahi gyan hojaega,ke Shrikrishna hi parbrahm, aadipurush hain.
भाई जान ये हमने बोला है क्या अपने कमेंट आप देखें फिर बोलना की हमने गलत बोला
Ved shastra kya kehte hain, ye agar discuss na bhi kre to , picchle 1000 saal me Sri Krishan ke bhakto ke jeewan se prerna leni chahiye, ki bhagwan kaun hai aur uska apna aadiroop bhi hai jiska darshan bhagaton ne kiya hai.
Are jis mukti ke liye tum yagya krte ho, ved padte ho, us mukti ko to Shrikrishna ke bhakt laat maarte hain. Mukti unke aage paani bharti hai.
इससे हम क्या समझे |
ये मैने इसलिए कहा क्योंकि आप सिर्फ वेद को मानते हो, भागवत और पुराणों को नहीं। और मैं पुराणों या भागवत में से कुछ लिखूंगा तो आप कहेंगे की आप भागवत को नहीं मानते। इसीलिए शास्त्रों को साइड पे रखने की बात कही। वेदों को नकार नहीं रहा में। इसीलिए मैंने शंकराचार्य जी द्वारा भाष्य की हुई भगवद्गीता के कुछ श्लोकों को नीचे प्रस्तुत किया है।
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मोहनदास करमचन्द गांधी (२.१०.१८६९-३०.१.१९४८)
मुसलमान चाकू और पिस्तौल चलाने में अत्यधिक स्वच्छन्द-”मुसलमानों को एक अग्निपरीक्षा से गुजरना पड़ता है। इसमें कोई सन्देह नहीं कियाजा सता है कि वे चाकू और पिस्तौल चलाने में अत्यधिक स्वछन्द होते हैं।”
(यंग इंडिया, २० दिसम्बर १९४२)
२. सामान्यतः मुसलमान क्रूर और हिन्दू कायर होते हैं-”मेरा अपना अनुभव है जो इस विचार को पक्का करता है कि सामान्यतया मुसलमान क्रूर होते हैं जबकि हिन्दू सामान्यतया कायर होते हैं।”
(गांधी की जीवनी, धनंजय कीर पौपूलर प्रकाशन, मुम्बई १९७३, पृ. ४०२)
ab ye mat bolna ki yah galat praman diya maine
Nahi, isliye kyonki usme doosre dharm ke shastron or beliefs ke prati nafrat aur ghrina hi bhari thi. Apne ko hi sarvshresht bataya gya tha. Vedon ki ant shant vyakhaan krke dayandand je ne logon ko gumrah kr diya.
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Haryana: Snake found in mid-day meal, ISKCON under scanner
Midday meal scheme for Iskcon opposed
Midday meal workers criticise the proposed move of the government to terminate the services of cooks
Appeal to the government not to entrust the supply of meals to Iskcon
Midday meal workers have taken objection to handing over the task of preparing and distributing midday meals to children in schools across the State to Akshaya Patra Foundation of Iskcon.
8,988 midday meal workers in the district would be deprived of jobs if the NGO was to be given the contract of serving midday meals to children in government schools. 6,500 women would lose their jobs in the district, if Akshaya Patra Foundation is given the contract.
ISKCON banned from supplying midday meals
South Corporation, after finding the smell of red meat and iron pieces in midday meals supplied by ISKCON (International Sri Krishna Conscious Society) Food Relief Foundation to South Corporation schoolchildren, has prohibited it from supplying midday meals to about 90,000 students. It may be stated in this connection that last December (2013) the students of Delhi’s Jai pur primary school had complained of pieces of dead rat and bits of iron in their midday meal. The Corporation had sent the food for testing to FICCI Research and Analysis Centre which confirmed that the food was harmful for human consumption. The Corporation therefore prohibited ISKCON Food Relief Foundation from supplying meals to children of the particular area from where the complaint was made. South Corporation’s Education Director, Rajesh Pathak said that as a penalty we have reduced the number of students by about 90,000 and the foundation will not supply the meals in the area from where the complaint was received. He further said that we will keep a watch on ISKCON’s food for three months. This decision (not to supply foundation’s meals) was taken in a meeting between the Additional Commissioner (Education) and ISKCON Foundation.
It may be stated that this foundation had been providing midday meals to about 1.4 crore primary students of Central and South Zones but now, after the penalty the foundation will supply midday meals to about 60,000 school children only. Leader of the opposition in South Corporation, Farhad Suri (Congress) said that this penalty is not sufficient and the Corporation should lodge an FIR against the foundation and cancel its licence
Rat found in midday meal sambar in Mangalore
A notice has been issued to Akshaya Patra Foundation of International Society of Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON), which has been serving midday meal.
Mangalore: Worm found in mid-day meal supplied by Iskcon
Adi Shankara: From a clear knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita all the goals of human existence become fulfilled. Bhagavad-Gita is the manifest quintessence of all the teachings of the Vedic scriptures.
भाई मेरे वेद पहले आया या गीता | यह बतलाना | फिर आगे चर्चा की जायेगी
This was for all those who say Vedas cannot be comprehended into just 700 shloks of Shrimadbhagavat Geeta.
मेरे भाई २००००+ हैं मंत्र या श्लोक जो आप समझते हो फिर ७०० श्लोक में कैसे संभव है पूरा समझा जा सके | और ७०० श्लोक में भी बहुत ऐसी बाते हैं जो केवल संवाद है | मैं ज्यादा जानकारी नहीं देना चाहता | धन्यवाद |
अरे यार तुम शंकराचार्य की बात नहीं मान रहे हो। बताओ शंकराचार्य बड़े या दयानंद? और गीता तो 5000 साल पुरानी नही है।
महाभारत में (शान्ति पर्व ३४८.५१-५२) हमें गीता का इतिहास इस रूप में प्राप्त होता है –
त्रेतायुगादौ च ततो विवस्वान्मनवे ददौ |
मनुश्र्च लोकभृत्यर्थं सुतायेक्ष्वाक्वे ददौ |
इक्ष्वाकुणा च कथितो व्याप्य लोकानवस्थितः ||
“त्रेतायुग के आदि में विवस्वान् ने परमेश्र्वर सम्बन्धी इस विज्ञान का उपदेश मनु को दिया और मनुष्यों के जनक मनु ने इसे अपने पुत्र इक्ष्वाकु को दिया | इक्ष्वाकु इस पृथ्वी के शासक थे और उस रघुकुल के पूर्वज थे, जिसमें भगवान् श्रीराम ने अवतार लिया |” इससे प्रमाणित होता है कि मानव समाज में महाराज इक्ष्वाकु के काल से ही भगवद्गीता विद्यमान थी |
इस समय कलियुग के केवल ५,००० वर्ष व्यतीत हुए हैं जबकि इसकी पूर्णायु ४,३२,००० वर्ष है | इसके पूर्व द्वापरयुग (८,००,००० वर्ष) था और इसके भी पूरब त्र्तायुग (१२,००,००० वर्ष) था | इस प्रकार लगभग २०,०५,००० वर्ष पूर्व मनु ने अपने शिष्य तथा पुत्र इक्ष्वाकु से जो इस पृथ्वी के राजा थे, श्रीमद्भगवद्गीता कही | वर्तमान मनु की आयु लगभग ३०,५३,००,००० वर्ष अनुमानित की जाती है जिसमें से १२,०४,००,००० वर्ष बीत चुके हैं | यह मानते हुए कि मनु के जन्म के पूर्व भगवान् ने अपने शिष्य सूर्यदेव विवस्वान् को गीता सुनाई, मोटा अनुमान यह है कि गीता कम से कम १२,०४,००,००० वर्ष पहले कही गई और मानव समाज में यः २० लाख वर्षों से विद्यमान रही | इसे भगवान् ने लगभग ५,००० वर्ष पूर्व अर्जुन से पुनः कहा | गीता के अनुसार ही तथा इसके वक्ता भगवान् कृष्ण के कथन के अनुसार यः गीता के इतिहास का मोटा अनुमान है | सूर्यदेव विवस्वान् को इसीलिए गीता सुनाई गई क्योंकि वह क्षत्रिय थे और उन समस्त क्षत्रियों के जनक है जो सूर्यवंशी हैं | चूँकि भगवद्गीता वेदों के ही समान है क्योंकि इसे श्रीभगवान् ने कहा था, अतः यः ज्ञान अपौरुषेय है |
गीता ५१५२ साल हो रहे हैं उपदेश का शायद एक दो साल कम या ज्यादा | जनाब गीता महाभारत का ही एक भाग है | चलो यदि चर्चा करनी हो तो fb पेज पर आना | यहाँ खंडन नहीं करूँगा नहीं तो इसका फायदा मुस्लिम इसाई बौध इत्यादि लोग उठाएंगे
अरे आपके लॉजिक से तो वेद भी 5000 साल पहले हो वेद व्यास जी ने लिखे। तो वो भी गीता से पुराने नहीं हैं। और मुझे राजीव दिक्सित जैसे भड़वे इंसान के प्रमाण मत दो। वो एक नंबर का झूठा था। बिना प्रमाण के कोई भी कुछ भी बोल सकता है। और में यहां iskcon के बचाव में नहीं, उनके द्वारा दिये ज्ञान के पक्ष में अपना मत रख रहा हूँ।
वेदांत अध्ययन आज के जमाने मे कोई नही कर सका। वेद की मंदघड़ंत व्याख्या करके दयानंद ने लोगों को गुमराह किया है।
महाभारत को पांचवा वेद माना गया है, तुम उसे भी मानने से इनकार कर रहे हो।
और क्या तुम मुसलमानों का बहाना बना रहे हो। अरे तुम्हारे वेद के एक श्लोक को पढ़ कर औरंगज़ेब ने लाखों हिन्दूओं को मरवा डाला।
मैं तुम्हे श्रीलप्रभुपाद, या श्री चैतन्य महाप्रभु के प्रमाण नहीं, बल्कि वेदों के ज्ञाता, उनको दुनिया मे प्रचार करने वाले सबसे बड़े विद्वान, अद्वैतवाद के प्रणेता, आदि शंकराचार्य की रचना से प्रमाण दे रहा हूँ, और उनके अनुसार निहायती मूर्ख इंसान हो तुम ।
भज गोविन्दं भज गोविन्दं
गोविन्दं भज मूढमते ।
सम्प्राप्ते सन्निहिते काले
नहि नहि रक्षति डुकृङ्करणे ॥
Worship Govinda, worship Govinda, worship Govinda, Oh fool !
Rules of grammar will not save you at the time of your death.
भगवद्गीता किञ्चिदधीता गङ्गाजललवकणिका पीता । सकृदपि येन मुरारिसमर्चा क्रियते तस्य यमेन न चर्चा ॥ २०॥
Let a man read but a little from bhagavadgItA, drink just a drop of water from the Ganges, worship but once murAri. He then will have no altercation with Yama.
गेयं गीतानामसहस्रं ध्येयं श्रीपतिरूपमजस्रम् । नेयं सज्जनसङ्गे चित्तं देयं दीनजनाय च वित्तम् ॥ २७॥
Regularly recite from the Gita, meditate on Vishnu in your heart, and chant His thousand glories. Take delight to be with the noble and the holy. Distribute your wealth in charity to the poor and the needy. Stanza attributed to sumati.
प्राणायामं प्रत्याहारं नित्यानित्य विवेकविचारम् । जाप्यसमेतसमाधिविधानं कुर्ववधानं महदवधानम् ॥ ३०॥
Regulate the prANa-s, life forces, remain unaffected by external influences and discriminate between the real and the fleeting. Chant the holy name of God and silence the turbulent mind. Perform these with care, with extreme care.
दयानंद हर दृष्टि से शंकराचार्य के पैर की धूल के बराबर भी नहीं हैं।और मैने तो ये भी पढ़ा है कि वो अपने जीवन के अंतिम दिनों में भगवान शिव की ही पूजा करने लगे थे ।
फिर भी तुम के मेंढक के समान सिर्फ दयानंद को ही विद्वान मान कर सिर्फ उसके द्वारा की गई मिथ्या व्याख्या, सत्य को अपनी सीमित सोच के साथ छुपाने को ही सत्य मानकर अपना जीवन व्यतीत करना चाहते हो तो तुम महामूर्ख हो। और तुमसे बहस करके मैँ अपना समय और शक्ति बर्बाद नहीं करना चाहता।
में अपना पक्ष रखके इस बहस से बाहर हो रहा हूँ। इसके बाद कोई जवाब नहीं दूंगा।
Sorry brother, you are not worth my time and energy, here or on Facebook.
अरे आपके लॉजिक से तो वेद भी 5000 साल पहले हो वेद व्यास जी ने लिखे। तो
ye apako kisne kah diya ki ved vyas ji ne likhe the
तुम भी अमित रॉय जैसे जैसे जन्म से मूर्ख हो या अब ऐसे हो गए हो। तुम्हे अभी तक यह नहीं पता चला कि वेद किसने कब कहे, गीता किसने कब कही, और किसने दोनो को लिपिबद्ध किया?? और तुम अपने को महाज्ञानी मानते हो। उस मूर्ख से तो मैंने बहस करने से मना कर दिया था, अब तुम्हे भी बहस के लायक ना मानते हुए तुम्हारे को भी कमेंट का उत्तर नही दूंगा। तुम लोग में सब के सब मूर्ख हो।
हर पागल यही कहता है कि वो पागल नहीं है ,
जनाब मैंने बहस करना बंद कर दिया मनीष बंसल क्यूंकि चर्चा में शामिल रिश्वा आर्य जी शामिल हो गए | दूसरी बात जो मुर्ख होते हैं उसको पूरी दुनिया उसी नज़र से आता है पूरी दुनिया मुर्ख है | कितना पानी में हो यह हमें मालुम है | मैं कमेंट नहीं करता मगर मेरा नाम आने के कारण कमेंट किया और ऐसे लोगो से चर्चा करना मैं नहीं चाहता |
जो खुद मूर्ख होता है वो सब को मूर्ख कहता है। क्या बच्चों वाला तर्क है।
फिर भी मैं कोई नहीं तुम्हे मूर्ख कहने वाला। ये तो शंकराचार्य जी के अनुसार तुम्हे उपाधि मिली है। उन्ही के अनुसार तुम मूर्ख हो।
हरे कृष्णा।
shankarachary mujhe jaante hain janab ??? ye batlana ????? radhe raadhe pauranik hisaab se nadan balak ko
और रही पानी की बात , मेरे एक भी तर्क का सही जवाब नही दे पाए तुम। अपना पानी चेक कर लो पहले। वेदों को ही चाटते रहना तुम।
janab vo yaha kaa janta faisla karti hai kaun jawab diya aur kaun nahi… aur sahi bol raha hai apane muh miya mithhu naa bano
shankarachary mujhe jaante hain janab ??? ye batlana ????
अब इससे ज्यादा क्या प्रमाण होगा तुम्हारी मूर्खता का?
ये पढ़ो शंकराचार्य तुम्हे मूर्ख कह रहे हैं।
भज गोविन्दं भज गोविन्दं
गोविन्दं भज मूढमते ।
सम्प्राप्ते सन्निहिते काले
नहि नहि रक्षति डुकृङ्करणे ॥
Worship Govinda, worship Govinda, worship Govinda, Oh fool !
Rules of grammar will not save you at the time of your death.
govind kaha hain janab aaj kal kyu nahi dikhai dete ????? aaur ek baat murkh guru ko bhi ishwar se bada manana chahiye pauranik hisab se ? thoda batlana hame ???
गोविंद तो हर जगह हैं, भगवान के रूप में वृन्दावन में, ब्रह्म के रूप में सारे जगत के कण कण में, और परमात्मा के रूप में हर प्राणी के हृदय में वास करते हैं।
लेकिन तुम्हे वो दिखाई नहीं देंगे। क्योंकि भगवान श्रीकृष्ण ने कहा है :-
मैं मूर्खों तथा अल्पज्ञों के लिए कभी भी प्रकट नहीं हूँ | उनके लिए तो मैं अपनी अन्तरंगा शक्ति द्वारा आच्छादित रहता हूँ, अतः वे यह नहीं जान पाते कि मैं अजन्मा तथा अविनाशी हूँ |
तात्पर्य : यह तर्क दिया जा सकता है कि जब कृष्ण इस पृथ्वी पर विद्यमान थे और सबों के लिए दृश्य थे तो अब वे सबों के समक्ष क्यों नहीं प्रकट होते? किन्तु वास्तव में वे हर एक के समक्ष प्रकट नहीं थे | जब कृष्ण विद्यमान थे तो उन्हें भगवान् रूप में समझने वाले व्यक्ति थोड़े ही थे | जब कुरु सभा में शिशुपाल ने कृष्ण के समाध्यक्ष चुने जाने पर विरोध किया तो भीष्म ने कृष्ण का समर्थन किया और उन्हें परमेश्र्वर घोषित किया | इसी प्रकार पाण्डव तथा कुछ अन्य लोग उन्हें परमेश्र्वर के रूप में जानते थे, किन्तु सभी ऐसे नहीं थे | अभक्तों तथा सामान्य व्यक्ति के लिए वे प्रकट नहीं थे | इसीलिए भगवद्गीता में कृष्ण कहते हैं कि उनके विशुद्ध भक्तों के अतिरिक्त अन्य सारे लोग उन्हें अपनी तरह समझते हैं | वे अपने भक्तों के समक्ष आनन्द के आगार के रूप में प्रकट होते थे, किन्तु अन्यों के लिए, अल्पज्ञ अभक्तों के लिए, वे अपनी अन्तरंगा शक्ति से आच्छादित रहते थे |
श्रीमद्भागवत में (१.८.१९) कुन्ती ने अपनी प्रार्थना में कहा है कि भगवान् योगमाया के आवरण से आवृत हैं, अतः सामान्य लोग उन्हें समझ नहीं पाते | ईशोपनिषद् में (मन्त्र १५) भी इस योगमाया आवरण की पुष्टि हुई है, जिससे भक्त प्रार्थना करता है –
हिरण्मयेन पात्रेण सत्यस्यापिहितं मुखम् |
तत्त्वं पूषन्नपावृणु सत्यधर्माय दृष्टये ||
“हे भगवान! आप समग्र ब्रह्माण्ड के पालक हैं और आपकी भक्ति सर्वोच्च धर्म है | अतः मेरी प्रार्थना है कि आप मेरा भी पालन करें | आपका दिव्यरूप योगमाया से आवृत है | ब्रह्मज्योति आपकी अन्तरंगा शक्ति का आवरण है | कृपया इस तेज को हटा ले क्योंकि यह आपके सच्चिदानन्द विग्रह के दर्शन में बाधक है |” भगवान् अपने दिव्य सच्चिदानन्द रूप में ब्रह्मज्योति की अन्तरंगाशक्ति से आवृत हैं, जिसके फलस्वरूप अल्पज्ञानी निर्विशेषवादी परमेश्र्वर को नहीं देख पाते |
श्रीमद्भागवत में भी (१०.१४.७) ब्रह्मा द्वारा की गई यह स्तुति है – “हे भगवान्, हे परमात्मा, हे समस्त रहस्यों के स्वामी! संसार में ऐसा कौन है जो आपकी शक्ति तथा लीलाओं का अनुमान लगा सके? आप सदैव अपनी अन्तरंगाशक्ति का विस्तार करते रहते हैं, अतः कोई भी आपको नहीं समझ सकता | विज्ञानी तथा विद्वान भले ही भौतिक जगत् की परमाणु संरचना का या कि विभिन्न ग्रहों का अन्वेषण कर लें, किन्तु अपने समक्ष आपके विद्यमान होते हुए भी वे आपकी शक्ति की गणना करने में असमर्थ हैं |” भगवान् कृष्ण न केवल अजन्मा हैं, अपितु अव्यय भी हैं | वे सच्चिदानन्द रूप हैं और उनकी शक्तियाँ अव्यय हैं |
भ.गी. 7.25
और मूर्ख दयाननद के मूर्ख चेलो, गुरु कभी भगवान से बड़े नहीं होते, गुरु। भगवान के दूत होते हैं, भगवान का संदेश लोगों तक पहुंचाते हैं। सरीला प्रभुपाद ने कभी नहीं कहा कि वो भगवान से बड़े हैं, वो कहते थे , में तो भगवान के दास के दास का दास हुँ।
लो भाई आपका एक कमेंट बचा हुवा था आज उसे भी शामिल कर रहा हु | आपका बोलना हैं ” गोविंद तो हर जगह हैं, भगवान के रूप में वृन्दावन में, ब्रह्म के रूप में सारे जगत के कण कण में, और परमात्मा के रूप में हर प्राणी के हृदय में वास करते हैं।” सबसे पहले आप हमें यह बताये भगवान् किसे बोलते हैं आपको यही नहीं मालुम भाई | भगवान् की तुलना आप परमात्मा से नहीं कर सकते | परमात्मा और भगवान् दोनों अलग है |पहले आप जानकारी दो फिर इस बारे में जानकारी दूंगा अपने हिसाब से |
आगे आपका बोलना है “तात्पर्य : यह तर्क दिया जा सकता है ” भाई आप तर्क दो वह सही और हम तर्क करे वह गलत | ऐसा दोहरापंथी क्यों ? आप करो तो चमत्कार और हम करे तर्क तो बलात्कार | वाह रे आपकी दोहरी मानसिकता | अब आगे आपकी एक बात को ही रख रहा हु ” मैं अजन्मा तथा अविनाशी हूँ ” अजन्मा किसे बोलते हैं जिसका जनम ना हो ? फिर खुद अपनी बातो को गलत कैसे गलत साबित कर दिया ” | गीता में भी बहुत मिलावट की गयी है | आप जैसे लोग ही कभी माखन चोर कभी रासलीला करनेवाले बोलकर योगीराज कृष्ण को बदनाम करते हो | अरे कृष्ण को हम भी मानते हैं उन्हें चोर छलिया इत्यादि बोलकर आप बदनाम करते हो | हम उनका सम्मान करते हैं और जो उन्हें चोर छलिया इत्यादि बोलते हैं उनका विरोध करते हैं… भाई साहब हम आपके पुरे कमेंट का जवाब नहीं दे रहे हैं नहीं तो एक आर्टिकल बन जायेगी | फिलहाल इतना समय नहीं की पूरा आपके कमेंट का खंडन करू | कमेंट छोटा करे जिससे आपके कमेंट का जवाब देने में आसानी हो | धन्यवाद | आपके जवाब की प्रतीक्षा में |
Commentary by Sri AdiShankarachrya on Bhagwadgeeta.
I hope this open your eyes. He was an authority on Vedas. And he was an advaitist. So, he should be followed by you advaitist. He is saying Srikrishna is the Supreme Goal. He cannot be seen by studiying Vedas.
For the commentary on Bhagwadgeeta by different scholars in one place visit.
http://www.bhagavad-gita.us
11.53 Na vedaih, not through the Vedas, not even through the four Vedas-Rk, Yajus, Sama and Atharvan; na tapasa, not by austerity, not by severe austerities like the Candrayana; not danena, by gifts, by gifts of cattle, land, gold, etc.; na ca, nor even; ijyaya, by sacrifices or worship; sakyah aham, can I; drastum, be seen evamvidhah, in this form, in the manner as was shown; yatha, as; drstavan asi, you have seen mam, Me. ‘How again, can You be seen? This is being answered:
11.54 Tu, but, O Arjuna; bhaktya, by devotion-. Of what kind? To this the Lord says: Ananyaya, by (that devotion which is ) single-minded. That is called single-minded devotion which does not turn to anything else other than the Lord, and owing to which nothing else but Vasudeva is perceived by all the organs. With that devotion, aham sakyah, am I able; evamvidhah, in this form-in the aspect of the Cosmic form; jnatum, to to known-from the scriptures; not merely to be known from the scriptures, but also drastum, to be seen , to be realized directly; tattvena, in reality; and also pravestum, to be entered into-for attaining Liberation; parantapa, O destroyer of foes. Now the essential purport of the whole scripture, the Gita, which is meant for Liberation, is being stated by summing it up so that it may be practised:
11.55 Pandava, O son of Pandu; yah, he who; mat-karma-krt, works for Me: work for Me is mat-karma; one who does it is mat-karma-krt-. Mat-paramah, who accepts Me as the supreme Goal: A servant does work for his master, but does not accept the master as his own supreme Goal to be attained after death; his one, however, who does work for Me, accepts Me alone as the supreme Goal. Thus he is matparamah-one to whom I am the supreme Goal-. So also he who is madbhaktah, devoted to me: He adores Me alone in all ways, with his whole being and full enthusiasm. Thus he is madbhaktah-. Sanga-varjitah, who is devoid of attachment for wealth, sons, friends, wife and relatives, Sanga means fondness, love; devoid of them-. Nirvairah, who is free from enmity; sarva-bhutesu, towards all beings-berefit of the idea of enmity even towards those engaged in doing unmost harm to him-. Sah, he who is such a devotee of Mine; eti, attains; mam, Me. I alone am his supreme Goal; he does not attain any other goal. This is the advice for you, given by Me as desired by you.
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अपना फेसबुक लिंक दें।
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Are ISKCON ki ninda krne ke liye itne bade bade comment, aur mera comment apko bahut bada laga. Maine Shankaracharya ke bhashya se aapko pramaan diye hain. Main dayandand sarwaswati ke bhasya ko nirarthak manta hun, isliye usme se pramaann ko main nahin manta. Shankaracharya ke bhashya se koi pramaan de to theek hai.
Aur ISKCON mein shivji ki ninda kabhi nahin sikhate. Kisi bhi dharam ki ninda nahin sikhate. Jaise ki aap logon ko sikhate hain. Aapka fb page dekha maine, musalmaano ke khilaaf nafrat ke ilawa kuchh nhi hai usme.
Aap Shankaracharya ko naHin maan rahe, to fir meri kya maanoge. Aap Dayanandji ko hi follow kren aur apni chhoti si galatfehmi me hi saara jeewan waste krte rahen.
A little knowledge is very dangerous.
Hare Krishna.
iskon ki jaankaari leni ho to rajiv dixit kaa video dekho bhai jaan
https://youtu.be/DuM1AeEskYA
Krishna is the creator and everything rests in him at the time of dissolution. This is confirmed by Adi Shankarchrya.
Commentary by Sri Adi Shankaracharya of Advaita Sampradaya:
9.7 Kaunteya, O son of Kunti; sarva-bhutani, all the beings-all the beings which, like wind abiding in space, abide thus in Me during their period of existence; yanti, go back; kalpa-ksaye, at the end of a cycle, at the time of dissolution; mamikam prakrtim, to My Prakrti which consists of the three gunas (qualities; see 7.13) and is (called My) lower Nature. Punah, again; aham, I; visrjami, project forth, create; tani, them, the beings, as before [As before: as in previous cycles of creation.]; kalpadau, at the beginning of a cycle, at the time of creation.
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Go waste your time bashing ISKCON ou5 of jealousy.
rajiv dixit kaa video dekho iskon kaa pol khol ho jaayega
Is ISKCON a cult?
I can say with 100% certainty Absolutely!Background
When I visited Bangalore, I drove past the ISCON temple. My curiosity took the better of me, so I visited the temple. Prior to entering the temple, I was horrified to view lavishly adorned roof, constructed out of gold. Wikipedia states: “There is a gold-plated dwajastambha (flag post) 17 m (56 ft) high and a gold plated kalash shikara 8.5 m (28 ft) high”
The gold roof itself is a pretty expensive indulgence for a temple built in 1997. Sure, there are other temples that have even more lavish adornments, but most of these temples were built 300-500 years ago. People weren’t that enlightened before.
As I walked in, prior to seeing any gods or goddesses, I was forced into a movie theater where there was a 30 minute long indoctrination video. The video looped around with the same message over and over. The gist of the message was: X was suffering from Y. X started to chant “Hare Krishna Hare Rama.” X’s suffering ended. He stopped doing that. His suffering returned. He started again, and his woes were gone. This message was repeated showing various examples around the world.
Normal Temple:
In contrast, a normal Hindu temple, has no indoctrination speeches or videos. During open hours, people walk in and it is a free for all. When the temple is open, people are allowed to simply walk-in, lounge about, eat food and participate in any rituals. Usually, the ritual can be as simple as a mangalarthi, where a candle is ritually used to receive blessings from the deities. The priest soaks wick in Ghee and uses it in a silver adorned jewel. During this light ceremony, he recites chants. Afterwards, the light “brought” to the people for blessings. Followed by the arathi, priests usually give the temple-goers blessed food, sometimes it is just a fruit like a banana. Other times, if you are lucky, you can be given dessert sweets like Kesaribath (a couscous prepared with saffron and milk). At this point, people have a choice of hanging out or leaving. Sometimes, people sit on the grounds of the temple, you see children playing around etc. There are no overt solicitations for money besides a donation box. The donation box says, ” please help us with a small donation, it is used for temple operations” (An honest and open request). If you choose to donate a larger donation, the priest gives you a receipt for tax purposes.
ISKON
Back at the ISKON temple, after the long tedious movie, we were then allowed to see the various dieties. During this time, various people solicited donations from me for various vague, dubious causes such as help feed the hungry etc. After viewing the golden roof, I doubted very much, that the donations went to the poor children in India. Prior to exiting the temple, we were given small flyers. They also had a list to sign up for their “emails”. This is unheard of in India. This already seemed a bit cult-like to me
ISKCON bangalore is a temple that was not under ISKCON Mumbai. It was confesicated by a thug Madhu Pandit, who has recently lost the case of its ownership after he was found guilty of producing fake and forged documents to prove his ownership of the temple. He had made it into a commercial hub.
Now its under ISKCON Mumbai. So now there is no such thing.
” he was found guilty of producing fake and forged documents to prove his ownership of the temple. He had made it into a commercial hub. ”
what else need to be said
Can you please tell what good these Aarya Samajis have done, except making a get together parties. Do not compare yourself with ISKCON you people including Shankaracharya can never do any good to society except indulging fighting and criticizing other sects and plying politics. No one knows you people in the world despite getting established so many years ago, except few Hindus and that too those leaving in City and that is the real cause of jealous, remember one thing people care for those who cares for them. Veda is not so cheap to get revealed to those who are devoid of sincerity and full of jealousy. You pick up some verses from Ved, twist it according to your need and convenience and proclaim yourself as scholars. You people should better know how the world is looking at you, hardly any learned men will be interested in your philosophy which is tasteless and far from Vedic Principles. Hope my comment will not get deleted by the administrator.
We do respect ur suggestions
Regarding ur allegation of twisting meaning of vedas’ would u place let is know which ved mantra translation etc area samajishth have twisted.
We at arya samaj believe in accepting truth .
We will be happy to hear it from you where we have done wrong n will ensure u to say sorry and correct yourself in case proven guilty.
Looking forward for ur revert
अरे भाई, क्या हुआ, दुसरो की निंदा करने में ही मजा आता है, जब अपने पे आयी तो फट गई। मैने तो पुराणों या भागवत में से कुछ नहीं कहा। तुम्हारी विचारधारा के ही महापुरुष की वाणी से तुम्हे श्रीकृष्ण के सर्वोत्तम और उनकी वाणी को वेदों का सार बात कर, उनकी भक्ति को ही सर्वश्रेष्ठ सिद्ध किया है। अब तुमसे जवाब देते नहीं बनता तो कमेंट अभी तक पोस्ट नही होने दिया। बड़े भड़वे लोग हो तुम, अगर ऐसा ही करना है, अपनी ही कहनी है, दूसरे की दबा देनी है तो बंद कर दो न ये ब्लॉग। और तुम मेरा fb पे क्या उखाड़ लेते? तुम्हारी तो यही बोलती बंद करदी मैंने।
हरे कृष्णा।
Dont loose patience.
each and every comment will be answered
Manish Bansal ji, please read satyrath prakash once, you will come to know the truth,I was a Jain after reading satyarth prakash I strictly became follower of sanathan vedic dharm and now everyday i perform havan two times. Even I used to visit iscon temple in Bangalore, but when read satyrath prakasha I came to know the truth. Only vedic religion is true…..rest all man made…..
Visiting ISKCON temple is different, reading and understanding its philosophy is different. You should read Srila Prabhupada’s books, and listen to their lectures. Coming to havan, you are doing havan, that is great, but everyone cant do it. It requires time, money, materials and space. Havan is not recommended process for this yuga. It was recommended in treta yuga,Meditation for satya yug, temple worship in dwapar and harinaam in kaliyug. Havan was done mainly for material gains.
Think about it, prahalad, dhruv, tukaram, meerabai, soordas, ravidas, narsi bhagat, dhanna bhagat, kabir, guru nanak,sadhna bhagat, jaidev all these great devotees of Lord Krishna or Visnu ,did they do any havan??? Even in satyuga chanting of holy names was done by prahalad. You cant do havan in mothers womb, but prahlad listened and chanted harinaam in his mother’s womb also.
So, try to chant 2 rounds of Hare Krishna mahamantra everyday. It takes only 15 mins. Then if you like it, you can increase the number of rounds.
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare,
Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare.
श्री कृष्णा पढ़े श्रील प्रभुपाद जी की …. कैसे उसमे यह बोला गया है कृष्ण ने गोपियों को नंगा देखा फिर कपडे दिए…. क्यों योगिराज कृष्ण को इस तरह बोलकर बदनाम किया जाता है |
Manish Bansal ji please read Bhagwat Geeta shalok 3/15 which says that all karmas are originated from four Vedas and Vedas are originated direct from God……..
प्रभु मैंने कब इनकार किया के वेद भगवान ने नहीं कहे। या वेदों का कोई महत्व नहीं है।लेकिन प्रभु वेदों को समझने लायक बुद्धि किसी इंसान में नहीं है इस कलियुग में। तभी तो आप और दूसरे आर्य समाजी लोग यज्ञ का मतलब हवन को ही समझते हैं।सब मनघडंत व्याख्या की है दयानन्द ने। इस युग मे तो हरिनाम संकीर्तन यज्ञ ही सर्वोत्तम है। इसके लिए कोई खर्च नहीँ है, बहुत ही सरल है। हवन तो 2 टाइम ही कर सकते हो, हरिनाम तो जब मर्जी जहां भी कर सकते हो । और वेदों का लक्ष्य भी तो भगवान श्रीकृष्ण ही हैं।भ.गी। 15.15 पढ़िए।
तभी तो आप और दूसरे आर्य समाजी लोग यज्ञ का मतलब हवन को ही समझते हैं। yagya ko kaun hawan samjhta hai janab ? yah aapki galat soch hai … dusari baat ved yadi itna dikkat hai samjhane me to aur yug me samjhna kyu aasan thaa thoda jaankaari dena…… aur vedo kaa lakshy shree krishn nahi hai janab…..aapke jaise kai log kiuch bol de muslim isai bhi bolte hain… usse koi fark nahi padta… lage raho aap log galat soch ke saath…….hame geetaa naa samjhaye hamne geeta bhi parha hai….
Are comment kyon delete kiya. Its not fair to delete the comments which does not suit you. Apne picchwade me le lo apna blog.
Are mere bhi comment uda diye yaar. Inme to kuchh sunne ka saahas nahin hai.. dayanand ne brainwash kr diya inka. Anpad gawaar log, moorkhta ke prateek. Total waste of time.
janab aapke comment delete nahi ho rahe…. samay nahi milane se aapke aur bahut logo ke comment kaa jawab nahi di jaa rahi… intjaar karo jawab di jaayegi…. aur kyaa aapke granth me yah bol rahe ho kis granth mebadtamiji karne ko bola gaya hai hai jo aisi sabd kaa istemaal kar rahe ho…. us granth kaa praman dena….abhi hame 72 comment approve karne hain aur uska jawab dena hai….aapke tarah hame kewal ek comment nahi karne hote. aur naa aapke jaise samay hai hame jo kewal comment kaa jawab dete rahe…..
janab aapke comment delete nahi ho rahe…. samay nahi milane se aapke aur bahut logo ke comment kaa jawab nahi di jaa rahi… intjaar karo jawab di jaayegi…. aur kyaa aapke granth me yah bol rahe ho kis granth mebadtamiji karne ko bola gaya hai hai jo aisi sabd kaa istemaal kar rahe ho…. us granth kaa praman dena….abhi hame 72 comment approve karne hain aur uska jawab dena hai….aapke tarah hame kewal ek comment nahi karne hote. aur naa aapke jaise samay hai hame jo kewal comment kaa jawab dete rahe…..
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More like a Mall than a Temple
This place is more like a mini shopping mall rather than a temple. You simply cannot get a spiritual feel inside ISKCON that you would get inside other temples.
It has been built beautifully with all the granite and marble and yes it does have a beautiful architecture. But after visiting the deity, when you come down you can literally see a restaurant/bakery inside. Following that you have stalls that sell you different items. I think this is exploitation of faith and this definitely is not indicative of the sanctity of a temple.
Simply put, Its more a man-made hybrid of a temple and mall where people would be going more in curiosity to see what all the noise is about rather than to actually pray.
Its definitely worth a one-time visit but this is simply not the place for spirituality or to find your calling
More like a Mall than a Temple
This place is more like a mini shopping mall rather than a temple. You simply cannot get a spiritual feel inside ISKCON that you would get inside other temples.
It has been built beautifully with all the granite and marble and yes it does have a beautiful architecture. But after visiting the deity, when you come down you can literally see a restaurant/bakery inside. Following that you have stalls that sell you different items. I think this is exploitation of faith and this definitely is not indicative of the sanctity of a temple.
Simply put, Its more a man-made hybrid of a temple and mall where people would be going more in curiosity to see what all the noise is about rather than to actually pray.
This is simply not the place for spirituality.
Ok. I am sharing a pastime of Srila Prabhupada with you. It will show the difference between Dayand Saraswati and Srila Prabhupada.
As narrated by Shyamasundar Dasa :
I remember one time in Mexico somebody had given Prabhupada a room. A nice, simple, but very clean room in a Mexican home, and he had gone in for a nap after lunch. And about an hour or so later, he rang his little bell, and I came. He was sitting on the end of his bed staring at this crucifix on the wall with this tortured picture of Christ, and there were a couple of tears coming out of Prabhupada’s eyes. And he said, “Shyamasundar, would you please remove this? They have killed their spiritual master so that they can sin.”
This is Srila Prabhupada, not like hate monger Dayanand Saraswati. That’s why we follow Srila Prabhupada.
And please publish my previous comment also.
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iskcon is not temple prabhupada books are totally wrong dont read them
A temple with a different attitude
If you are an Indian with slight inclination towards religion then you of course would be aware what ISKCON stands for and probably you might have visited one of their centers already. In this case, there is nothing special for you to see here, except an exceptional kitchen and an all veg restaurant.
If you do not fall in the above category, then I must tell you that this is not like other temples you might have been before. It is not about prayers, smoke and worshiping but it provides you serene environment, atmosphere and chanting appropriate for meditation etc. The vast complex allows much space for visitors so you do not feel crowded, except on special occasions when there is no space to keep your feet on ground.
There is an expensive all veg restaurant.As I said before, this temple is not like other usual temples where main focus is on prayers and worship of the deity, this temple is different.
Good and bad in one!
The Iskcon people have good intentions, but misguided actions. They worship their gods with splendour and wealth. Their wealth is gathered with questionable means. The books that they distribute are with bad translations and commentaries, although they claim that their author was a Vedic scholar. He did not even know Sanskrit, however. People who know the scriptures know very well, that the Iskcon stuff is fake, just for show aand to impress and brainwash their devotees.
Unfortunately Indians are easily impressed by a show of wealth and western efficency, and by the external looks of books and other devices.
Even though their temples all over the world, as the one here in Kolkata, are nice to see to the eye, and the behaviour of the people there seems to be exemplary outwardly, you should not be deceived by the lack of inner quality. Real Bhakti does not need to show off. It is rather found in poor places, where more inner qualities are cultivated.
Liked it but will prefer visiting a proper temple
Like all other Iskon Temple this is also one glamorous temple.But its quiet small in compared to other Iskon temple in different parts of India.But that Indian Holy essence you wont get it ..everywhere foreigners singing and dancing.. pizza for prasad.. That so NOT India…Its more of a business and show off.The holy songs also didnt touch my heart..I would spend more time in proper temple than going there where only donation is everything…
A visit to temple marked by unending profiteering and Business agendas at every step
You may well, visit a Temple in Juhu which has its own splendour and pomp. Which has its own gods and godesses well adorned and greatly kept for ones darshans and warmth as well as seeking the lords blessings. One may , have a great time to be at the temple with ones relatives and seek the positive aura.
Amidst positivity, one may find the premises has nothing to offer as a “Prasadam” to the visitors in form of Jal or solid liquid Prasad.
even if one falls hungry, one has to see the joke of the great loot going around in terms of “FOOD” thats the basic necessity when ones hungry.
the food corner in terms of snacks is run by private agency, where one may find tikka laden cashiers and service providers, but to awe its all rates donot match the temple for which it stands for.
The rates are not at all middle to lower middle class friendly and leave the poor class which would never afford such rates. Since, its laden with name of god, and serviced by so called tika laden volunteers, it supposedly needs to be controlled in terms of prices as well as affordability.
Horribly astonishing, one cannot find utterly poor people in the temple and its filled lobe with filthy rich or the commune thats willing to really agree and promote such unreasonable cost of snacks that are not at par in taste, quality and volume to the joints in the vicinity.in Gods name anything can be charged.
Surprisingly, even on sundays, there is no such prasad service. one has to be a member and or pay an amount to avail food.
As a family of 4 one can easily spend Rupees 1500 on snacks at one time, if one is a hefty eater. thats very high. 2 families in group , easily 2500 rupees.
One may feel good watching kirtans. dancing and gods image. but ones mind would turn complaining once one witnesses such business errands doing their opportunistic rounds.